Using Logic 10.4 Articulation Sets with Spitfire Libraries

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  • Anders Link

    Thanks for sharing the .plist file too! So I would use the "switches" tab to map those key switches onto buttons on my keyboard, right?

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  • Sandy

    Hi Anders,

    You can certainly use the switches with these Articulation sets. By default our libraries have their own key switches enabled in the lowest octave which require no configuration in Logic but if you wanted to make all of your 3rd party libraries consistent in the way key switches are assigned then this would be a great way to do it.

    If you need any further guidance on this please reach out to us with a support ticket at spitfireaudio.com/support

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  • Hans Keys

    Thanks for this article, could you please explain the reasons behind: "the best method for Logic's Articulation Set is UACC KS"? What are the benefits over "UACC"? Thanks

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  • Sandy

    Hi Hans,

    Good question! The reason UACC KS is preferable to UACC is that it allows you to select multiple articulations, with UACC the articulation is selected by setting CC#32 to a specific value and MIDI controls can only hold one value at a time so only one articulation can be selected at any point in time.

    Using UACC KS means that a MIDI note on message (on C-2 in this case) can select an articulation with a specific velocity. Whilst a note can only have one velocity at a time, Logic (and many other DAW/Sequencers) can sequence several note on messages at once with different velocity values on the same note.

    What this means practically is that you could, for example, easily sequence a chord where some notes are regular Longs and some are Long CS (or tremolo, etc) using articulation sets.

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  • Victor Huggo

    I'm trying to create my articulation set for Spitfire Symphonic Strings. I'm following the tutorial, but I always have problems. For exemple, I have a 1st violin multi (Kontakt) with, legato performance, extended tech and decorative tech. Both three on channel 1 and UACC KS locked. When I play a pizzicato, the three instruments play together.
    How can I resolve that problem?
    Thanks

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  • Jonathan Nelson

    I am trying to create custom articulations in Logic Pro X using my Spitfire Woodwind and Brass using your method explained above. However, I am not able to enter a value in the value column. On mine, it says 0 and it won't allow me to change it. What am doing wrong?

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  • Philip Shackleton

    Victor, I'm having a similar problem. I want to use multiple instances of Spitfire inside a single Kontakt instance, with key switching determining which instance plays. Specifically, I'm trying to use Violins 1 (8) as one instance of spitfire, plus half step trills and whole step trills as two other instances of spitfire, all on channel 1, in the same instance of Kontakt. But all three spitfire instances play all the time, despite my having selected different key switches for each articulation. It's as if spitfire instances with only one articulation ALWAYS play, even if you've assigned a unique key switch to that single articulation. Help, anybody?

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  • Grant Floering

    Victor and Phil I am in the same boat. Have you found a solution for this?

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  • Paul Morrin

    Victor, Phil, Grant, if I understand you correctly and you're all using Logic; in order to use multiple Spitfire Libs inside the one Kontakt instance, you need to set up a Multi-Instrument midi item in Logic.
    Go to the Environment where the channel strip holding Kontakt is shown. Click "New" top left, click "Multi-Instrument". Route the cable from the multi instrument into the Kontakt channel strip. Now you need to create a Track in your main window for each of the channels of the Midi Multi Instrument, and then assign those channels in Kontakt for each of the Spitfire Libraries.
    Of course, if they are all assigned to Channel 1 and inside the same instance of Kontakt they will all play at the same time :) Using the Multi Instrument midi item in Logic is the way to play a number of channels into a single channel strip, set the channel strip itself to "All" ...Hope this gives some help...

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  • Sandy

    Hi Victor, Grant and Phil

    We have a handy guide here on how to set up multi channel Kontakt instances: https://spitfireaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021674613-Setting-up-multi-channel-Kontakt-in-Logic-Pro-X-

    If you're loading multiple patches for the same instrument (such as core and decorative patches) these ought to be on the same MIDI channel, if you configure UACC KS as described in the article above it should only trigger one instance at a time.

    If all three are triggering, make sure that the UACC KS note in your articulation set is the one used by the patches and if you still have issues please reach out with a support case attaching the articulation set so we can look into it with you.

    Thanks
    Sandy

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  • Sandy

    @Jonathan

    Rather frustratingly you can't enter values with the keyboard for the "value" column, you must click and drag on the field to add the value.

    Thanks
    Sandy

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  • matae Jeong

    this article is great!

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  • Adrian Konarski

    "Using UACC KS means that a MIDI note on message (on C-2 in this case) can select an articulation with a specific velocity. Whilst a note can only have one velocity at a time, Logic (and many other DAW/Sequencers) can sequence several note on messages at once with different velocity values on the same note.

    What this means practically is that you could, for example, easily sequence a chord where some notes are regular Longs and some are Long CS (or tremolo, etc) using articulation sets."

    For some reason it does not work on the same note. No way to choose both articulations at the same to. I am talking about UACC KS.  How to do this? 

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  • Bruce Crawford

    Is there any chance at some future point that the articulation sets .plist file could be provided by Spitfire as a part of each library, as an optional download on the product page?

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  • Richard Farrow

    Come on guys, spending lots of money on your products. Takes ages to receive emails. There's no customer support on the phone. I've tried the above, it doesn't seem to work.

    Alternative Solo Strings doesn't have key-switches so if I create KS as triggers and create articulation sets using logic then it works. However what I'd like to be able to do to save some time is Lock UASS or Lock UASS KS.

    > I've opened instance of Kontakt.

    > Locked UASS as I don't need to layer sounds.

    > Opened New Articulation sets.

    > Alternative Solo Strings for Violin has 12 articulations. I therefore created 12 articulations, named them, left the articulation ID in numeric order.

    > On the output tab I have attempted to change 'type' to note on so that I may change the note in 'selector.' However as not using KS, tried to change 'type' to controller so that 'selector' maybe changed to a numeric value.

    > Attempted to change the selector numeric value to 32.

    > No matter what the selector is, for some reason if I try and double click or tight click on output value to change the number, it doesn't work. It always remains at 0. Essentially I'm trying to change the number specified by Spitfire, for example Long as the number 1.

    If you guys are able to help that would be awesome.

    Thanks.

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  • Scott Hudson

    How do I configure the "Locked to UACC KS" option in the Spitfire Audio App instead of Kontakt? I'm trying to utilize articulation sets with the BBC Symphony library, but there are elements in the Kontakt UI that the Spitfire Audio App doesn't seem to have (or at least I'm having trouble finding them).

    Do I need to run BBC Symphony via Kontakt instead?

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  • Christian Ruvolo

    "How do I configure the "Locked to UACC KS" option in the Spitfire Audio App instead of Kontakt? I'm trying to utilize articulation sets with the BBC Symphony library, but there are elements in the Kontakt UI that the Spitfire Audio App doesn't seem to have (or at least I'm having trouble finding them)."

     

    I have exactely the same question! Please Supprt, can you answer this?

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  • Scott Hudson

    I had to message them directly to get an answer on this, and they responded instructing me to create separate tracks for each articulation that I want to use for a particular instrument, FWIW.

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  • Christian Ruvolo

    Scott thank you for the reply!!, but :

    how can we switch the articulations in a melody in one track where some notes have to be played legato and some notes staccato for example?

    Using Logic instruments in the piano roll we can decide witch articulation every note is taking, but when the articulations are on separate tracks that is very difficult to manage many changes in the articulations for one part... Or I am missing something? Thank you.

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  • Scott Hudson

    Spitfire recommended dedicating each track to one articulation so that you don’t ever have to change it. I got it working by creating a track for each articulation, recording a passage in one track, copying it to the others, and muting/deleting the notes I don’t want in each copy of the track.

    They clearly designed their spitfire app to authorize these libraries and left some important functionality out in the process. Getting this stuff to work has required lots of workarounds.

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  • Aedan Diez

    Great Article, but I do have a question:

     

    How can I set this up for the BBC Symphonic Orchestra? It doesn't seem to work in the dedicated plugin and when I load it up into Kontakt it doesn't work either + I cannot even seem to find out how to lock it into UACC....

     

    Please Help!!!

    Thanks !

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  • Aedan Diez

    So how do I lock to UAAC KS with the BBCSO plugin?

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  • Bruce Crawford

    UACC is only relevant to Kontakt, it does not apply to Spitfire’s own plug-in. BBC SO does not run in Kontakt.

    By far the best way to manage articulations with BBC SO is to use Logic articulation sets, as described in the instructions at the top of this thread, except with the Spitfire plugin it’s even easier because you don’t have to mess about with UACC.

    If you don’t have time to make your own articulation sets there are companies who sell them such as https://www.babylonwaves.com/ who cover all libraries by all major developers for both Logic and Cubase.

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